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Wenzel ’04: The athlete, the legend, the sandwich

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Published Friday, March 28, 2008
Alex Berggruen ’10, a weekly consumer of Alpha Delta Pizza’s campus-famous Wenzel sub, said he was introduced to the sandwich when his roommate, Hyatt Bailey ’10, ate his first Wenzel and insisted that Berggruen try a bite. Berggruen told Bailey he was not hungry, but his roommate insisted that he try it. He took a bite. And, he says in blissful retrospect, “my eyes were opened to a whole new world of flavor.”
#1 By (Anonymous) 12:08pm on March 28, 2008

Awesome article about an awesome sandwich.

#2 By Hell yes (Unregistered User) 3:58pm on March 28, 2008

Thank God for articles like this, about legendary Yale men.

On a side note, this sandwhich gives you flaming shits the next morning.

#3 By alum (Unregistered User) 7:40pm on March 28, 2008

Um, am I missing something? How is this sandwich different from a Buffalo Chicken sandwich? I've been to several sandwich shops that sell sandwiches that are essentially identical to the Wenzel: chicken cutlet (or grilled chicken) cut into pieces with Buffalo sauce, some mayo or Bleu Cheese dressing and lettuce and tomato. I see nothing original about this guy's sandwich. Not to say it isn't delicious, though.

#4 By Joe (Unregistered User) 8:34pm on March 28, 2008

It's not just a buffalo chicken sandwich. You've clearly never had a Wenzel! You wouldn't be posting that comment if you had.

#5 By Real alum (Unregistered User) 1:35am on March 29, 2008

#3, eat my shorts. Haha, go back to Harvard.

#6 By Snack Attack! (Unregistered User) 2:52am on March 30, 2008

This article was written in good taste. I thoroughly enjoyed reading this article about a good sandwich and a good man. Wenzel is a ledgehammer.

#7 By Alum (Unregistered User) 10:31am on March 30, 2008

You are right, I've never had a Wenzel. I graduated before he even came to Yale. But please, do tell me how it is different from a Buffalo Chicken sandwich? I am curious.

#8 By Joe (Unregistered User) 3:42pm on March 30, 2008

I don't know exactly what the difference is ingredient wise. The use of mayo in conjunction with their own original hot sauce might have something to do with it. Sure you can have a buffalo chicken sandwich — but a Wenzel is more than that. You have to see for yourself. It's like saying, what's the difference between a cheeseburger at McDonald's and a cheeseburger at Louis' Lunch?

#9 By Y05 (Unregistered User) 8:13am on March 31, 2008

To the Alum;

Most buffalo chicken sandwiches are breaded chicken filets tossed in buffalo sauce, smothered with blue cheese dressing.

The Wenzel is a bit different. The hot sauce is not buffalo wing sauce, it is more like the hot sauce you find at a lot of the middle eastern restaurants around New Haven, so that's a big difference. The other is instead of blue cheese or blue cheese dressing, its some sort of regular cheese and mayo.

Overall the sandwich tastes very different. You should make a point to grab one during your next trip to the 'Have.

#10 By Alum (Unregistered User) 4:16pm on March 31, 2008

Thank you for clarifying the difference between the Wenzel and a buffalo chicken sandwich. I agree it does sound a bit different. I will certainly try one out next time I'm near AD Pizza.

#11 By Captain Obvious (Unregistered User) 1:01pm on April 1, 2008

Hey, I have a great idea for a sandwich: put some steak, some onions, some green peppers, and some cheese on a roll. We'll call it...

Point being, a Philly cheese steak sandwich tastes different everywhere you go. That doesn't mean that it's not called a cheese steak.

To claim the Buffalo chicken sandwich as your own invention is lunacy.

#12 By Wenzel Pride (Unregistered User) 2:06pm on April 1, 2008

Captain Obvious

Just because it has hot sauce and chicken does not make it a buffalo chicken.

buffalo chicken / wings are prepared with blu cheese - or if your from the mid-west ranch, not mayo, cheese, lettuce and tomato.

please refrain for making any more comments since you clearly have no idea what your talking about

cheers wenzel

#13 By (Anonymous) 4:22pm on April 1, 2008

The Wenzel is certainly delicious, but I prefer other buffalo chicken sandwiches in New Haven, Roberto's Diner on State Street in particular. AD's late hours do give it a huge bonus in using a Wenzel as a means for picking up women though.

#14 By Captain Obvious (Unregistered User) 4:33pm on April 1, 2008

Wenzel Pride:

Buffalo chicken / wings are not prepared with blue cheese--the blue cheese is served on the side.

http://www.jimssteakout.com/

Page 4 of the menu.

I think Alpha Delta / Wenzel should sue Jim's Steakout--an institution in and of itself--for ripping off perhaps the most obvious sandwich ever invented...

...and then they should make a run at the turkey club.

#15 By Max Lanman (Unregistered User) 7:57pm on April 1, 2008

I just wanted to note that comment #12 was not posted by Eric Wenzel.

Please keep the comments civil.

Thanks,

Max Lanman

Yale Daily News

#16 By Joe (Unregistered User) 4:41am on April 2, 2008

I just ate a Wenzel, and it was absolutely delicious.

Captain Obvious:

After just eating this sandwich, I've confirmed that it is unlike any other sandwich I've eaten before. I've eaten many buffalo sandwiches before, this tastes nothing like a buffalo sandwich.

Sourcing some random dude's website does not make your argument reasonable in anyway.

Stop spewing BS from your mouth and take a bite of a Wenzel. As the dude in the article said, your eyes will be opened to a "whole new world of taste".

#17 By Y90 (Unregistered User) 5:47pm on April 2, 2008

Back in the day, there was a somewhat famous sandwich at Park Street Subs (it was back behind Davenport at Park and Elm) called the Carmen--named after Carmen Ilacqua who graduated in 1985. If I recall correctly, a Carmen was cheesesteak with sauteed mushrooms and pepperoni. Park Street also did something that sounds very similar to the Wenzel. I think Park Street must have closed in the late '90s. There's a mention of it on this aged thread from a food website below. Next time I'm in New Haven, I'll have to have a Wenzel (since it looks like I won't be having breakfast at the Doodle)

http://www.chowhound.com/topics/157524

#18 By (Anonymous) 11:16pm on April 2, 2008

i think it's reasonable to say that they named the sandwich after the kid because he ate a lot of them, but it's completely unreasonable to say that he "invented" it.

#19 By again (Unregistered User) 4:43am on April 3, 2008

Again, I don't think anyone should comment on whether or not the sub is original, if they haven't eaten a Wenzel.

I'd also like to go back to a previous point made.

Louis Lunch Cheeseburger: A McDonald's Quarterpounder

Wenzel: To a Buffalo Chicken Sandwich

Also, someone previously noted that it is not "hot sauce", it is their homemade sauce. Hot sauce is watery in terms of its density, the sauce on a Wenzel is of the same density as BBQ sauce.

#20 By final point (Unregistered User) 11:03am on April 3, 2008

your louis lunch vs mcdonalds example is awful.

a wenzel might taste different than other buffalo chicken sandwiches for a variety of reasons (oven temp, frying oil, etc.), but that doesn't mean that it is some sort of new, ingenious concoction thought up in alpha delta pizza in the early 21st century. Those ingredients (and the concept of buffalo wings/sandwiches in general) have been around since buffalo's anchor bar launched the buffalo wing to worldwide fame in the 1960's. wenzel invented nothing--he merely asked that a buffalo chicken sandwich be made with ingredients that alpha delta had on hand. he had nothing to do with the hot sauce that alpha delta used (unless he invented that as well, which is unlikely considering they probably buy it by the drum from some variety of restuarant distributor, although i wouldn't put it past his ego to claim primacy to as well). he wasn't the first person to combine those very same ingredients on a sandwich, even in new haven. the fact that alpha delta named their version of the buffalo chicken sandwich after him is fine, because he is the person who prompted them to add it to the menu.

but he didn't invent it.

the delusions of grandeur expressed in this article and the above comments are ridiculous.

"but the hot sauce is different! it's just so different! There's cheese!"

#21 By PC Heyday (Unregistered User) 1:10pm on April 3, 2008

Park Street was amazing, had a sick video boxing game, and sold June's homemade peanut-butter cups. Bulldog (ADP's predecessor) offered a cheesesteak with bacon and a fried egg on it. Solid entertainment all around.

#22 By final final point (Unregistered User) 2:48pm on April 3, 2008

This is my impression of that guy:

"Look, I'm the guy who posted comment #20. I've never had a Wenzel, and yet I continue to talk about it as if I had. Oh and also, I'm pretentious."

#23 By anonymous (Unregistered User) 10:55pm on April 3, 2008

I LOVE TO EAT WENZELS EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK INCLUDING SUNDAY

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