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The few, the proud: Male WGSS majors

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Published Wednesday, April 2, 2008
Back in kindergarten, most boys had a fail-proof way of explaining the workings of the female mind: cooties. Soon, though, cooties become obsolete and now — after puberty, hormones and periods — understanding women is often perceived as a hopeless task for the college-aged man. But not for Colin Adamo ’10.
#1 By Hieronymus (Unregistered User) 8:35am on April 2, 2008

"Everyone," [Krivchenia]said, "has 'gender.'"

Hate speech!

#2 By Cathy MacKinnon (Unregistered User) 12:46pm on April 2, 2008

"But in spite of the diversity in the field of study, WGSS is often perceived as a niche major that caters to students with very specific career interests."

That's the understatement of the century. More accurately, the major caters to students who want to become tomorrow's welfare queens. NO employer would want to hire someone who chose a BS major like women's studies (...and no, "BS" does not stand for bachelor of science)

#3 By (Anonymous) 2:57pm on April 2, 2008

This major is nothing more than propaganda. What good doe sit do our society to indoctrinate a bunch of young, allegedly bright, minds with more misandrist PC bs than the mainstream media already delivers?

Most boys, even in kindergarten, do not think girls have cooties. Most men, now and historically, have not hated women.

Society does not exist as some big conspiracy to deny women personal fulfillment.

#4 By Andrea Door King (Unregistered User) 9:16pm on April 2, 2008

Take note, women's studies majors (all seven of you, that is). It's not too late to change your major. For those of you who have already graduated, don't forget to bring some extra donuts to munch on while waiting in the unemployment line at the local welfare agency: The economy's a bit tighter than usual this year, so the line's going to be extra long!

Seriously: What do the parents of these women's studies majors think about their kids choice of major? ("My parents spent $160K and all I got was a bunch of femi-nazi propoganda!")

#5 By WGGStype (Unregistered User) 12:53pm on April 3, 2008

Silly people, when Hillary gets elected guess who gets a Cabinet post? Someone will have to guide the new politically correct agencies sure to be developed.

#6 By Bill Summers (Unregistered User) 12:00am on April 4, 2008

While I appreciate the generally positive mention of my course in this article, I would point out that the characterization of the course as "political" in any way, or my stance on the material as "liberal" is not accurate (liberal,however is not a label I avoid). Because I discuss the topics of the course in a straight-forward way just as I might discuss digestion or any other physiological process does not mean that is it either liberal or political. My goal is to treat material and subjects that some might find "sensitive" with as much scientific, dispassionate objectivity as I can muster. Only by such an approach can we come to understand what science can teach us about the complexities of gender and sexuality. That a student would enroll in a course entitled "The Biology of Gender and Sexuality" and be surprised to hear discussions of "orgasms and stuff" is a bit unexpected, to say the least.

#7 By Really? (Unregistered User) 2:22am on April 4, 2008

The people who post on this article only to say that WGSS is a ludicrous major should really reconsider (this is coming from someone who would never major in WGSS). What can one do with this major? I don't know...grad school in psych/sexuality/public health/social work/law? Advocacy? Non-profit work? Hell, if you take enough econ courses, you could even become an i-banker (which is the only legit profession, right?). Don't dismiss academia as "femi-Nazi propaganda"...that is wrong on so many levels.

#8 By Chase O 8:49pm on April 8, 2008

I love Colin Adamo.

#9 By Colin Adamo Fan #1 (Unregistered User) 8:50pm on April 8, 2008

How can one boy be so ludicrously crushable? Colin Adamo, words cannot describe my love for you.

#10 By Colin Adamo (Unregistered User) 1:45pm on April 9, 2008

For posts number 2, 3, and 4, do you go to Yale? I'm not sure any of you are very familiar with Yale's brilliant stance on it's education. Ever notice how there's no pre-law, business, or pre-med? Why is it that i-banking and internal medicine seem to be the only respectable professions for a Yale graduate? I feel like we're supposed to be the brilliant leaders of tomorrow, why waste your time in a corner office on wall street making as much money as you can when you could be out making the world we live in a better place?

With an a degree in econ most of Yalies will go work in Goldman's, work 14 hour days and go home to their huge apartments in Manhattan.

The brilliant people I know with WGSS degrees are in Mexico and Paris and India working with battered women or educating young girls or working with NGO's battling AIDS.

Which one do you respect more? There's not a right answer and if you feel that the money makers are your heros that's fine, but don't dismiss the WGSS major because it doesn't bring the big bank. They're the ones who are making our planet a more peaceful place to live in, despite your misguided views of conspiracy theory feminazis.

#11 By Hieronymus (Unregistered User) 8:57pm on April 9, 2008

"[W]hy waste your time in a corner office on wall street making as much money as you can when you could be out making the world we live in a better place?"

Gee, Bud, I dunno; why?

Quick question:

Which group has done more toward "educationg young girls [and] working with NGOs [ed. note: uh, no possessive there, Yale boy; and do NOT try to cry 'typo'!]":

A) Bill Gates

or

B) Every Yale WGSS grad who ever lived, collectively?

How about:

A) Warren Buffet

or

B) Every Yale WGSS major that will ever live, collectively?

Who did more to get you your free Yale education?

A) The Bass family

or

B) Any WGSS major on the planet earth?

That's RIGHT! It's "A" all the way!

#12 By anonymous (Unregistered User) 11:57pm on April 9, 2008

@#11: Exactly. But Bill Gates never graduated from college. So what's to stop a WGSS major from following in his path? Nowadays, majors predict careers less and less. A WGSS major with an economics background can become an iBanker, while an economics major with a background in WGSS can teach about AIDS.

#13 By Colin Adamo (Unregistered User) 1:42am on April 10, 2008

Actually I would argue B. Thank you.

Who do you think does the ground work for Bill Gates? Honestly, do you think Gates is the one on the ground distributing pills, educating classrooms about healthy sexual practices, counseling rape victims? I'm greatly appreciative of the big wig business guys who make it possible for those with less pecuniary focuses to get their hands dirty.

Hieronymus, why can't we both live and be happy together. You can have a huge house somewhere and all your materialistic joys, and still be satisfied with your contribution to the greater good of the world that comes from paying my salary and my student loans while I'm out there in the streets making sure the generations that come after us are healthier and live in a world of equality.

I don't know why you're so adamant about that or think that money is the solution to absolutely everything.

#14 By non WGSS majors (Unregistered User) 7:10am on April 10, 2008

I am sorry but so many of these comments are ridiculous. Of course WGSS majors can get jobs -- they are graduating from Yale. We are a liberal arts school... most of our majors are completely useless! And, I'm sorry, the argument about Bill Gates is doing more is crap. Bill Gates has had a much bigger effect on the economy than every single Yale Econ major too!

I have loved the WGSS classes I took. I chose a major that I liked better... everyone should chose the major that interests them the most!

#15 By Hieronymus (Unregistered User) 8:15am on April 10, 2008

At least you admit it: "You can...still be satisfied with...paying my salary and my student loans."

Bill Gates = profit center

WGSS = cost center

And do not confuse contempt for your major with contempt for your actions (or even you!).

I continue to argue that one can pursue one's personal academic goals, however obscure or esoteric, in the broader context of less political (and, thus, more salable) disciplines.

Someone else wrote it here, I was not the first: "don't forget to bring some extra donuts."

One of the beauties of a liberal arts education is its flexibility. A history major with, say, a senior thesis on trangender issues in Brazilian brothels (complete with field work) can, say, start out in the Peace Corps, get into the political scene, then decide, when conditions warrant(a family, say), to hit Wall Street. No one is going to ask to read the senior thesis; no one is going to roundfile a Yale history major because of any detrimental preconceptions regarding a "chip on the shoulder" attitude or lack of seriousness.

But I GUAR-AN-TEE you the same is not true of, say, WGSS majors.

Perception of that and similar majors will act as albatross, fairly or unfairly, for at least two reasons: the bearer will be dismissed out of hand as too much trouble (and you won't get the interview in which to disprove it) OR seen as not clever or flexible enough to have designed an individual/interdisciplinary course of study within a traditional major.

In other words: you have not chosen a major, but a political slogan. You have narrowed your options (the OPPOSITE of the liberal arts goal).

Perhaps you will be happy with your decision forever--I, for one, hope so (really, I do). But, in my opinion (and that is all it is) you have curtailed your lifetime earning power. Perhaps you will never reach the limit you have set, but if you do, i.e., if you find yourself unable to provide for your needs (personal, professional, familial) and wonder why no one in industry will take you, you can look to your undergraduate degree for the answer.

Lastly, with regard to Bill Gates and his lack of collegiate credentials: Uh, Bill was too smart for college. I am fairly sure that you are no Bill Gates (and, to soften the revelation, I submit that nor am I, nor 99% of Yalies in general).

Good luck!

#16 By Another Reader (Unregistered User) 8:00am on April 17, 2008

Colin, stop conversing with yourself on the comments board of this article! I know you're just trying to seek more attention for yourself, but just get over yourself already!

#17 By (Anonymous) 10:49pm on April 17, 2008

You people cannot be serious. You are all satirists right? I'm pretty sure WGSS major could, oh, I don't know, go get a masters in Sociology, a PHD in Psychology, and many of the activities that Adamo listed. These professions make pretty good money, and thus do not require Wall Street. By the way, are there any Bear Stearns employees on here? How does it feel to have no soul AND no money?

#18 By (Anonymous) 11:03pm on April 17, 2008

The idea that nobody will hire a WGSS major is utter nonsense. By the time you graduate from College, your major barely even matters anymore. Most employers look at your summer internships... and on that note, WGSS majors are looked upon kindly for research assistant positions, NGO positions, healthcare positions, etc. And those things matter for graduate school. Hieronymous is right in that the major does limit you -- it limits you to academic fields, social activist positions and healthcare professions....wow, what a terrible and fiscally poor lives these people will lead! No, Morgan-Stanley may not hire you, but when was the last time that Wall Street was the only way to make money?

#19 By anonymous (Unregistered User) 7:13pm on April 19, 2008

1. Choose a method/ theory of investigation: psychology, biochem, sociology, history, etc.

2. Choose a field to apply that to.

The problem with gender studies or african american studies, etc is that there is not a clear form of analysis built into the concentration. Maybe why so many people double major these fields with one that defines the method of investigation?

#20 By @Colin Adamo (Unregistered User) 10:17am on April 22, 2008

Lol. itt, people show they know nothing about career options for econ undergrads.

What disqualifies an economics undergraduate student from going and distributing medicine in Africa? Nothing. What disqualifies a WGSS major from going to work for an I-Banking firm? A lot. You just have a narrower set of options.

#21 By Follow up #17 (Unregistered User) 12:29pm on April 22, 2008

You are right--if Adamo COVERS OVER his WGSS major, then maybe he can get a job.

You see, you DO agree with what folks are saying: WGSS is a waste of time and (parents'/ Yale's) money, something to be rectified later to make a living.

I especially like #20's succinct summary.

#22 By (Anonymous) 9:38pm on April 23, 2008

I-banking... sad, sad, sad.. what a waste of a decent education

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