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Ivy peers have embraced gender-neutral housing

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Published Wednesday, April 9, 2008
The Ivy League tide of gender-neutral housing may prove too powerful for any Ancient Eight school to resist for much longer — and that includes Yale.
#1 By Hieronymus (Unregistered User) 8:37am on April 9, 2008

Brown also offers a 28-credit, no-declared-major degree that is, quietly, the laughingstock of the Ivies; should Yale follow suit?

#2 By (Anonymous) 9:08am on April 9, 2008

yes

#3 By Old Blue '73 (Unregistered User) 10:54am on April 9, 2008

I'm not quite sure what the big deal is. After freshman year, don't people pick their roommates and participate in room draws for the available suites in each college? All it would take would simply to announce that the administration would not bar people from picking different sex suitemates. Any students who don't join groups would simply check one of three boxes as gender preference for suite/roommates: male/female/don't care. Most incoming freshmen would most likely prefer same sex roommates, but even then preferences could be indicated on the housing apps. The default for frosh could still be same sex without causing much uproar.

For my senior year, four of us conspired to create a coed suite. None of us were romantically linked, we were just good friends. The woman put in for a single, the man who wanted a single joined the other two of us for a nice triple, and they just switched when it came time to move in. We split the large living room in half and built a loft so each of us could have a bedroom. No big deal and nobody gave a rat's ass and that was 35 years ago.

#4 By Hieronymus (Unregistered User) 2:58pm on April 9, 2008

"For my senior year, four of us conspired to create a coed suite."

EXACTLY! More evidence that today's student's are slower-witted than in the past.

As stated elsewhere, the desire to make a mountain of of this molehill says more about the "Me! Me! Look at ME!" generation's narcissism than commitment to community or intellectual vigor. They've been trained to be Liberal in high school (all those resume-building, "community service" trips to Latin America) to get IN to Yale, now they think their actions are actually important.

(What is the logical fallacy of groupthink, the one with the quote concerning Nixon's win along the lines of "But no one *I* know voted Nixon!")

#5 By anonymous (Unregistered User) 5:10pm on April 9, 2008

Heironymous- wouldn't it be nice to be able to live with whomever you want without breaking rules? No matter how "quick-witted" and deceptive you are willing to be, wouldn't it be a little bit sad to know that you couldn't have legitimately entered the housing draw with a co-ed suite, even a platonic one, because someone, somewhere thinks it's wrong? In my opinion, it's the administration that's making this initiative into a mountain, not the students behind it.

And since you're so quick to use "liberal" as a pejorative term, I would like to point out that having fewer regulations is closer to the basic conservative ideals than having many regulations of debatable necessity.

#6 By XY (Unregistered User) 6:49pm on April 9, 2008

#5: As far as freshmen are concerned, don't you think that someone should be alert to the possibility that a straight freshman male of limited maturity might indicate a preference to live with women?

#7 By Parent (Unregistered User) 7:38pm on April 9, 2008

STOP this insanity!! I do not want to pay to have all of the principles & morals I've taught over the years to be so casually ignored by the supposed elites of Yale. If you actually do support this you need more time at home under adult supervision.

#8 By Scott Ingels (Unregistered User) 7:01am on April 15, 2008

After reading the article and comments, I still don't understand what 'gender neural housing' is. Is it just mixed? If so, why do gay/lesbians make such a big deal about it?

#9 By Rachel Schiff (Unregistered User) 8:55pm on April 15, 2008

@ Scott -

gender neutral housing is "mixed housing" for people who believe that gender is a social construction/don't identify with a certain gender/don't care with which gender to live with.

"Gays and lesbians" are advocating for this proposition as well as "straights" and "bisexuals" (if we're going to use that type of termonology) for trans individuals who are particularly affected by the absence of gender neutral housing because they don't feel comfortable associating with a specific gender/their roomates are uncomfortable with their "gray" gender.

Kapish?

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