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So what's that mystery 'third building'?

Staff Reporter
Published Thursday, June 11, 2009

UPDATE (2:01 p.m.): The links to the PDFs actually work now. Oops.

The pretty PDFs we posted yesterday, courtesy of Robert A.M. Stern Architects, contained some never-before-reported details.  (As an aside: "moats" without water and alligators and sharp objects are not moats.  They are just depressions filled with shrubbery.) Here's a rundown:

Students in the new colleges need not worry about getting along with a roommate: ALL bedrooms will...

#1 By anonymous 1:03p.m. on June 11, 2009

None of us can tell what you're talking about if the links to the "pretty PDFs" don't work.

#2 By BR'10 3:15p.m. on June 11, 2009

Has Stern considered the apparent possibility that scary monsters will take up residence in the new colleges?

#3 By y'12 6:57p.m. on June 12, 2009

where is the retail space????? if yale wants this area to be successfull it needs to be more of a mixed use district.

#4 By nah 11:39p.m. on June 12, 2009

This is a residential-colleges project. I know of no residential colleges anywhere that have retail components.

When the market is there -- that is, when the students move in -- the retail will come. Just not in the colleges themselves.

There's almost nothing more antithetical to the collegiate ideal than ground-floor retail.

#5 By yale 10 10:11p.m. on June 15, 2009

harrison,

there are elevators. take a look a few pages into pdf 0001 or whatever. the square thing with an X? that's an elevator ...

#6 By yale 09 10:15p.m. on June 15, 2009

South College HAS to be WLC College ... that is, William Sloan Coffin College ... look at those gorgeous views from the upperclass suites.

#7 By David A. O'Leary, '52 (Mus.) 11:05p.m. on June 15, 2009

Thanks to YDN for keeping us up-to-date on this.
A non-architectural item: in the last paragraph, it's
"Edwards's." Don't be shy...... it's easy to pronounce. On the other hand, YDN almost never
misspells things.

#8 By Recent Alum 11:09p.m. on June 15, 2009

y'12 what in the world are you talking about????????

#9 By David A. O'Leary, '52 (Mus.) 11:17p.m. on June 15, 2009

This corrects my website (covered with embarrass-
ment).

#10 By 7:32a.m. on June 16, 2009

of course they will have elevators. Ever heard of ADA compliance?

#11 By Anon 10:59a.m. on June 16, 2009

@nah: Durfee's convenient store is retail space - and it's clearly within a residential college building.

No harm having another "Durfee's" in one of those colleges.

#12 By Henry 11:53a.m. on June 16, 2009

I agree with y'12. This area needs space for new restaurants that will attract students and stay open late. I think Arnold Hall and Ivy Noodle go together pretty nicely.

#13 By Recent Alum 1:07p.m. on June 16, 2009

Henry, it's been a little while since I graduated but I am fairly certain Durfee is still on Old Campus, not in any of the 12 residential colleges.

#14 By John 1:50a.m. on June 17, 2009

Ezra Stiles College has the bookstore built into it and Thali Too just steps away.

#15 By Design New Haven 11:50p.m. on June 18, 2009

The area would definitely benefit from retail space, but that may be difficult programmatically given the density issues involved here. Although there may not be space in these buildings (or in the theater building to be placed at the corner, which would make the most sense), other opportunities in the immediate area will abound: Winchester Avenue leading towards the redeveloped Science Park, the ground floor of Becton Center, the new SOM campus, the redeveloped existing SOM buildings across the street, the parking lot next to Payne Whitney, even some of the smaller buildings scattered around Dixwell (like where New Haven Reads is currently located). Broadway isn't very far either.

Improving the transportation system so that students felt comfortable walking and bicycling for a few extra blocks on a regular basis would also help reduce the distances involved:

Letter to Levin
http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/24841

News' View: University must not delay safer streets
http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/25009

#16 By Anon 9:50a.m. on June 19, 2009

Recent Alum, it doesn't seem important whether Old Campus counts as one of the 12 Residential Colleges or not. Probably it does not. But it's clearly a residential building - students live in there. Durfee is in the basement of their residential building.
Is there something that makes actual College buildings different from other residential buildings?

#17 By to 16 2:11p.m. on June 19, 2009

Yes, I would say so. A college is self-consciously a contained unit, an ivory tower in miniature, of only 300-500 people. Ideally, it's a place where everyone knows each other, a place where academics and extracurriculars are treasured, and a place from which commercialism is banished.

To whatever extent the (much larger) Old Campus may violate these ideals, it is setting a negative precedent, not a positive one.

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