Yale Daily News

"Finding such a suite today is actually impossible..."

oh, paul. sneaking these little comments into the paper of record. how devilish.

Not to be a downer, but even setting aside whether or not this is wise (it's not)... is this news?

I feel so old - '72 had classmates who married while still students at Yale!
Most, however, waited until the summer after graduation.

This was a heart warming and touching story.

@#2-

I'd rather read more human interest pieces in the YDN than another horribly conceived op-ed in support of the flavor of the day weird social cause or protest movement.

The lead couple displays more maturity than 99% of current undergrads.

Although, I would have enjoyed wedding details, plans for next year, their parents' opinion, etc.

I think this article is compelling because it offers a glimpse of a couple not jaded by Yale's twisted social scene. Too often, people in relationships are too ambitious and self-centered to realize that a meaningful connection isn't dangerous. It's good to show Yalies a success story, or something that they can look forward to later.

I bet that marriage soon after graduation is more common than you think. My husband ('05) and I ('04) got engaged in the fall of 2005, just a few months after his graduation, and were married in summer 2007, at ages 24 (him) and 25 (me). We were by no means the first of our friends/acquaintances to marry, and there have been more since then. I don't think of it as "settling down" because I didn't settle at all! It just works out that way for some people.

...the yale students I know who get married in their early early 20's are all Mormons or devout Catholics...who are forbidden by their faiths to get it on without a ring.

I married a classmate--at Dwight Chapel--a year after we graduated. We're still devoted to each other, and to Yale. You'll never get to know a person better than when you're in college ( a bar? C'mon!) Why not grow up together with the one you love?

Is the YDN required by law to publish all comments, or is it just guilty of being devoid of shame and class??? I'm thinking here of poster #7 and his or her irrelevant, tasteless, crude, and insulting remarks. There seems to be a lot of this type of comment that arrive onto the message boards. Such comments are insulting to the target group and should be embarrassing to ALL associated with the YDN.

I'm with #9... should we think about requiring registration so at least there are names with comments..?

especially relevant after princeton's debacle yesterday with their admissions rate article. a few people can cause catastrophic PR damage under the current system.

@#10

But, surely, you value "diversity" of opinion? Especially in an academic setting where we are called to "tolerate" the equally valid merits of anything and everything?

Surely?

[Full disclosure: I found #7's comment a bit ignorant, perhaps crass--as well as to perpetuate stereotypes; however, following Arouet, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."]

I graduated in '91, was engaged my entire senior year, married 6 weeks after graduation (to a Princeton alum, we're a house divided.... Happily married almost 18 years, with a 16 and 13 year old. And a career. And how I LOVE watching my classmates chasing after their toddlers NOW! And how great to know that by the ripe old age of my mid/late 40's, my children will be finished with college and I will be starting out on an entire NEW phase of adulthood, young and healthy enough to enjoy it, with the (hope) of decades of growth and continued development ahead of me.
I feel like I sort of hit the lottery, to be honest. :-)

I don't see how #7's comments reflect on the YDN at all #9. The comments are simply our discussions concerning their articles. There is a clear dissociation between the YDN and those who post comments, so it's only embarrassing to the person who posts it. Which he should be because that remark is totally off base. Your implying that the only reason people choose to get married or NOT to have sex is because of their religion. That seems shallow to me but enjoy your loveless world.

Bulldog 71 has it right. Good story that has made me happy this morning

Actually #9, commenter #7 only had one remark. And in reality she is stating a fact or two,Catholics are forbidden by their faith to have relations until they exchange their vows..Not sure about the Mormans , is that the Polygamists bunch out in Utah ? even then it is the order,it's not until rev. jim says i do ,i do, i do,i do,i do

I met my wife at the beginning of Junior year (she was a student at Southern Conn.-Yale wasn't coed in 1963). It was a blind date arranged by a roommate who was dating a girl at Southern. Since she was in New Haven, we saw each other a lot. We were married two weeks after graduation (June 26, 1965) - she was 22 and I was 23. We celebrate our 44th anniversary this June.

I thought the article was exceptional, and I am delighted to read about a couple who have their heads on straight and know what they want in life. The fact that they have chosen to live their faith in the pagan environment of Yale is a tribute to their personal strength and courage. This couple is well situated to have a long and happy life together.

No, I agree with you entirely about free speech and do value diversity of opinion. However, I am concerned about the possibility and accessibility of malicious "sabotage" by a few individuals.

i.e. It seems that many of the disastrous comments posted on the princeton admit article were by the same disgruntled senior under different names (although it is also a bit hilarious..) see:

http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/2009/04/01/23213/comments/

The real issue with #7 is this: the YDN screens out comments they think are offensive. Apparently it is not offensive to make a snide generalization about Catholics or Mormons. But my hunch is they would refuse to post something similar about Muslims or some other group. So yes, they are making judgments about who it is OK to offend.

@#18

So sorry: my comments should have been directed at #9

hey YaleProf, check out the comments on this opinion piece on Muslims: http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/comments/28421

snide generalizations against any group are and should be allowed.

I wish I were as lucky as the lead couple in the story to have met my match during my time as an undergrad at Tale.

agh, i've been engaged for years; i'm dying to graduate, get out of here, and finally get married. not that anyone cares.

(oh wait, how is my story different than the one that actually made a "news" article?)

#23: Because you, unlike Rebecca, aren't a writer for the News. I don't think that this article mentions that she's on staff for the YDN, though it should.

To anonymous (#23):

I agree with you, as another Yalie engaged, graduating, and planning a wedding. I too wish the article would have talked a bit more about married/engaged Yalies in general and focussed less on one particular couple. I think an even more general, larger investigation into the topic would be quite interesting.

But, article specifics aside, congratulations to Rebecca and Sean on the engagement. This stage of life is truly wonderful and I wish you both the best!

I judge folks who are my age/younger that choose to get married because I'm not even close to being mature enough and sure about myself and my future to be in that same situation.

Good for them.

I think it's a great feature story. How is this any less "news" than front-page articles on what celebs split up or got married? It's a cool story, and a unique one. As funny as I know Sean can be, he is extremely cool and collected— and at Yale, that's hard to come by. Most everyone I know, including myself at times, are very insecure and could never make this big decision.

re: #19

This whole "they'd never do that to a conservative/liberal" mode of argument really needs to be shelved. People love to whip that one out without even considering obvious counterexamples. I especially like how Yaleprof's hunch in one sentence is all of a sudden the basis for an affirmative statement in the next. As post 21 points out, it's quite clear the ydn will allow negative statements about muslims on its commenboards.

And you're a Yale Prof.? Really? People this weak-minded should not be in charge of classrooms.

#28-

I read the comments on this site fairly often, and I began to suspect some time ago that "YaleProf" is not really a Yale professor. He made a comment about grading at one point that revealed a striking ignorance about how students behave in seminars.