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Sociology department seeks a place to call home

Staff Reporter
Published Thursday, October 15, 2009

The Sociology Department is looking for a home.
For nearly two decades, the department’s faculty have been spread out across several aging buildings on Science Hill on the property of the planned new residential colleges. Because of the location of two of these buildings — 140 Prospect St. and 80 Sachem St. — the department may eventually get the single space it has long desired.
The Sociology Department’s transience is emblematic of a campuswide game of dominoes — a complex shuffle of construction and renovation, which Deputy Provost Lloyd Suttle has compared to a giant version...

#1 By Hieronymus 11:33a.m. on October 15, 2009

How about Gateway CC?

'sabout right in academic terms...

#2 By Yale 08 12:21p.m. on October 15, 2009

Guess what -- sociology tends to attract among the most lackluster students at Yale (a pattern for most universities) who then, true to their backgrounds, go out and lead uninspiring/less-lucrative lives; not a great recipe for donations to endow a departmental building later on.

#3 By Y'07 1:48a.m. on October 16, 2009

Hieronymus- 'sabout right'? Does Yale not teach standard English?

#4 By JasonM 8:48p.m. on October 16, 2009

Most of sociology is left-wing advocacy masquerading as science; for that and other reasons, the most talented social-science types go into economics.

references:

http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2008/11/chart-of-day-gre-scores-by-academic.html
http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2007/08/sociology-of-economics.html
http://www.viet-studies.info/kinhte/Economic_Major_CHE.pdf

#5 By hmd20210 12:42p.m. on October 17, 2009

How true. I started as an economics major at Yale and was so unimpressed with the program that I switched to economics/political science after the first year. Yale so excels in these two areas that sociology will always remain a foster child within the social sciences.

#6 By Hieronymus 12:22p.m. on October 19, 2009

@#3 haha! Jus' tryin' toe right so's u kin unnerstan, yo.

#7 By dk 2:15p.m. on October 27, 2009

@#3 that's right, Yale does not teach standard English. It teaches 'world Englishes' in which all forms of uneducated speech are asserted to be equally acceptable. But just try submitting a paper full of grammatical errors in that class.

#8 By Recent Alum 3:41a.m. on October 28, 2009

Jason, very good links. It is to Yale's discredit that this classes in this unacademic major are still being taught. Even for the social science-types who are too mathematically-challenged to succeed in Economics, Political Science is still an option.

#9 By PC '07 12:26p.m. on November 3, 2009

What ridiculous, bitter comments. One of the best classes that I took at Yale was in the Sociology department, and I was an MCDB major. The blindly ambitious desire to marginalize "unacademic" subject matter and discredit valuable liberal thought can ruin a Yale education.

"Recent Alum," for one, could probably learn a few things from "this classes."

#10 By Yale Alum '08 4:33p.m. on November 8, 2009

Here we go again, the arrogance of the economists and political scientists who think that having math on their side is a kin to having God there too. News flash #8: empirical rigor a la regression modeling can be as unsuccessful at providing causal explanatory power as any other qualitative method. As you well know, correlation is not necessarily causality, though where there is arrogance, nearby lies ignorance.

#11 By yale '08 4:49p.m. on November 8, 2009

JasonM and Recent Alum:

Jason, go peddle your fluff somewhere else. I'm always amused by the 'hard-core science' argument in the social sciences. You seem to have confused quantitative methods with truth.

So the work of sociology is 'left-wing advocacy masquerading as science', huh? Interesting theory. I guess then that Krugman or Stiglitz are exceptions because they can crunch numbers right? Or how about the hundreds of 'liberal' political scientists?

I hope you do not plan on academia. Boring, narrow-minded fools like you are sucking the life out of the social sciences. There are places for quantitative methods as there are qualitative. If you find that you can't learn anything from sociology without being dismissive then I feel pity for you more than frustration. Special ED maybe?

#12 By jr 12:02a.m. on November 9, 2009

To the YDN Editors,

Why do you let Hieronymus post on here? Your screeners dont allow posts deemed offensive. I think Hieronymus is offensive time and time again. How come he gets a free pass and his posts are always approved?

#13 By Recent Alum 9:06p.m. on November 9, 2009

I am offended by jr's comment (#12). Can a YDN editor delete the comment please? Thanks.

#14 By Recent Alum 9:26p.m. on November 9, 2009

#12: Any comment on a controversial issue (like whether Sociology is a legitimate major) can be deemed offensive to somebody. The YDN's policy is not to delete "offensive" comments, but to delete "abusive" comments, and generally I think that the YDN has done a good job of allowing controversial comments while deleting "abusive" comments.

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