Gender gap widens
More women than men applied to Yale last year, but more men were admitted — despite a gender-blind application review process
A total of 2,281 more women than men applied to Yale last fall, reflecting the greatest gender disparity among applicants in decades.
But despite the higher number of female applicants, 68 more men than women were offered a place in the class of 2012. When last year’s admissions cycle was over, the difference was clear-cut: 9.8 percent of men — and just 7.5 percent of women — were accepted. In response, Dean of Admissions Jeff Brenzel told the News on Monday that the College will actively review all its admissions data and processes with respect to gender beginning in December,...
So there are 5 female applicants for every 4 male applicants, yet more males than females are admitted. Are the female applicants disproportionately stupid, or what? (The Administration swears up and down that the standards for admission are the same for males and females.)
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The SAT has a gender gap of about 60 points that hasn't closed up since it's big shortening back in the like... 80s I believe.
Apart from that, I can't fathom what this is happening, LOGICALLY.
Off the grain? Yale is historically the school of "Gentleman"... old habits die hard 'eh?
Don't think I'm joking.
When I was applying, the population was touted as 50-50 or 51-49, something like that. And I thought there were actually more women enrolled for a while. I'd be interested to see statistics year-by-year.
Princeton admits they have lower admissions standards for men in order to make sure the incoming class is approximately 50% of each gender.
Does this mean women have successfully overcome their history of being discriminated against and we should now treat them equally rather than giving them special treatment?
I chalk this up to the "Gossip Girl" and "Gilmore Girls" effect.
Surely Title IX will be applied as evenhandedly as it has in the past to ensure equality of outcome among sports participation? The trends imply that women's sports need to be curtailed, no? Oh, wait...
The joke is that Yale pretends it doesn't have affirmative action for men, just as MIT pretends it doesn't have affirmative action for women. Why is the truth so toxic?
It says that "admitted" students to Yale are equally qualified.
Then, it says that females may be more likely to send applications to a reach school. (It would also be nice to see if females send out more applications in general)
Put the two together. It did not say that the applicant pool of both sexes were equal, just the admitted pool.
I think the situation here is being posed in the wrong way. Yale gets what, 25,000 applications each year? One has to imagine that the majority of those applications come from really strong applicants. Unfortunately, the freshmen class only has 1300 spots. There are many more qualified male and female applicants than there are spots. As long as all the applicants are equally qualified, the school is going to craft a class that's as close to 50/50 gender ratio as possible. A good co-educational experience wouldn't be attained in a school that had >60% girls and <40% boys. Of course, the school doesn't consciously do this (that would be too complicated to manage) so the gender ratio varies a bit every year.
Why do thay have to pretend the bias is "unconscious" if the result is "a good educational experience" and thus acceptable?
For the same reason the male admit rate at MIT is 8%, and the female admit rate is 20%. MIT. likewise, is seeking a "good educational experience" - in their case, by placing a thumb on the scale for female applicants. And don't give me this "all admits are qualified" stuff.
Based on what I saw in high school, I would say the people who suggested that more women apply to schools out of their reach than men are on the right track. I don't have an explanation for why this is though, and would be interested to see what sparks this. I remember my school's college counselor telling me that being a "driven white girl" would put me at a disadvantage in terms of standing out, and he put serious pressure on me to give up on the more elite schools. I got into Yale, but at the same time, a lot of my female friends were rejected from their dream ivies. Also, I believe studies have shown that more women apply to college in general, not just to Yale.
Also, #11, I think Yale works hard to make sure that all the admits are qualified. The silly thing is trying to say that all applicants are qualified. Yes, more applicants are qualified than can be admitted, but I doubt that all the thousands of people who apply to Yale could actually hold their own here.
If this is true:
Currently, 58 percent of applicants to private colleges are women, he said, so the number of female applicants to Yale is “not terribly surprising.”
Isn't the whole article sort of pointless?