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It's about time Yale switched out of the Horde system to the Google one...

We are the Borg. Resistance is futile.

SUCH A WIN. horde is so terrible i can't believe anyone actually uses it. by contrast, gmail is great.

Finally. Why didn't we do this sooner?

it feels so odd to see the IT department do something useful. how much does this save them on systems and personnel? and who do we thank for this?

Is anyone worried at all about Google gathering data on Yale users?

Hmm, the only quotes are from people who wish to remain anonymous. Yeah, I'm sure this news is 100% accurate. Chalk another one up for the Yale Inquirer, err, I mean the Yale Daily News.

There goes our privacy. All our data belongs to Google now.

What's this about employees? What is happening with exchange?

But how much of our privacy ISN'T on Facebook already?

@8: all your data has BELONGED to Google for a long time; you haven't heard?

for god's sake, when are courts going to finally issue an injunction against google? wake up people, google makes our lives easier at a big expense: privacy. google is a for profit corporation and fast forming a monopoly on the world's digital information. their number one priority is advertising dollars. Their ubiquitous presence symbolizes a growing dilution of quality and control of information; they are taking the world's information, which is supposed to be available to the public, and slowly privatizing it.

Google is not in the public's interest. They have become an advertising-driven corporation that is unwilling to limit itself:

http://www.google-watch.org/

Just say no to Google

In the digital age, our privacy is already in the hands of multinational corporations -- get used to it. Personally, I'd rather trust Google with my security than Yale ITS, and I'd rather have Gmail than Horde!

we use google at fairfield univ. where I am in grad school now. I love it..I wish we had this when I was an undergrad here.

Skynet is here.

Google security? You mean the company that got hacked, and data stolen recently? And yeah, horde sucks. That's why I use Outlook.

Hallelujah!!! We have needed this since the turn of the century. Horde is just so, so, so awefully slow. And cumbersome. And useless. Best news of the year.

Just wait until Google becomes sentient. No one can save us now.

(except maybe John Connor)

@#14,

Despite the inefficiency of Horde, University controlled email servers in general do a much better job of filtering out unwanted content, protecting data, and ensuring security.

I am taken aback by how willing people are to sell their rights and privacy for the sake of comfort and gadgets. Huxley's Brave New World continues to impress me in its ability to so accurately portend our fate as a post-industrial society. Break out the Soma and put me to bed!

Great, the same organization that celebrates Darwin's birthday but ignores Christmas year after year is now going to run Yale emails.

@#21

Hasn't an organization that celebrates Darwin's birthday and ignores Christmas been running Yale's emails this whole time? Wake up. Religion is over. Join the 21st century.

#22, what are you talking about? Yale respects religion and there are numerous Christmas events held at the university. Wake up yourself, religious is nowhere near over.

I want to keep horde! who would want to go to gmail?

Seen this story in the NY Times?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/13/technology/internet/13google.html

Good luck trying to organize email with GMail. Its not the most widely accepted paridigm of dealing with large quantities of data. Search is cool, but not the best way to track your projects, class notes, etc.

Horde it's an impressive Collaboration Suite, if Yale can't manage it, like we are seeing. Then it's their fault.

Advantages of moving to gmail:

- Better reliability

Disadvantages:

- Privacy concerns
- No advanced auth options like Kerberos
- Harder to customize in the long run
- Primitive (in the sense of organizing) e-mail folder Concept
- No "stackable" filters
- No GPG Integration (from the web interface)
- No local Addressbook server (would be great for people using an email client on campus)
- No friendly and all-in-one interface to manage things that are internal to the University, like an user triying to change it's university services passwords (other than email, of course)

All in all, Horde _it's_ good, but if you criticize it without knowing it's full strenghts it's your fault.

VCU in Virginia has been using GMail to organize their email for 2 semesters now. Nothing new here...

Google has shown that it cannot be trusted with IP or technology 1) and 2) this is old news; many colleges and other institutions have already oursourced their email to Google. MAJOR MISTAKE, you watch....

What does esteemed alumnus John F. Kerry, aka www.LIVESHOT.cc think about this?

Google is the global leader in invading people's privacy and exploiting personal information for financial gain. Why Yale would allow this company to control its emails is beyond me. Might as well allow some spammer to operate your computer system.

Hey you libs at YALE, your privacy and your rights are gone forever

Don't be paranoid.

Arizona State has been using Gmail for asu.edu email accounts for over a year.

LSU has been using this for years as well. Nothing special. Move along.

Here is an idea: Have each student procure their own email account and service from an independent, free enterprise vendor... Just like real people (not in college) do. Then, each student provides their email address to the school to use as a method of communicating with them.

Of course, this would go against the grain of the spirits of collectivism and entitlement that seem to be required features of any college campus. However, there may be something to be learned by having individuals procure (in a competitive market) the service that best suits their needs balanced with the price that they are willing to pay for it.

If there is a real business school there at Yale, perhaps someone there can expalin the remarkable benefits of free enterprise along with an ethic within individuals make direct economic choices for the services and products they consume - Quite a novel idea, these days.

Google is easily top dog. They provide about 75 percent of the external referrals for most websites. There is no point in putting up a website apart from Google. It's do or die with Google. If we're all very lucky, one of the other three will soon offer some serious competition. If we're not lucky, we will be uploading our websites to Google's servers by then, much like the bloggers do at blogger.com (which was bought by Google in 2003). It would mean the end of the web as we know it.

http://www.google-watch.org/bigbro.html

People who hate Google should not use it - and should otherwise stop being such whiney crybabies to those of us who find google very useful.

Georgia Southern University has been using this for students for about a year and a half now and is looking at moving faculty/staff to it very shortly.

So what. My school has had the GMail interface / API for years now. Way to catch up to IT trends there, Yale. I suppose 5 years from now Yale will proudly announce their first foray into XSS and social networking. Hope none of you are getting an IS degree from here. Sheesh.

@By student1776 "People who hate Google should not use it - and should otherwise stop being such whiney crybabies to those of us who find google very useful".

I am glad our Founding Fathers didnt think like that in 1776! 'nuff said!
Do you like British Tory Tea "student1776" ?

Linked from drudge.

Not sure why this is a big deal. We have had this at UVA since last year. It works fine.

All those who expressed distrust or hostility to Google and its products will be asked to report to their supervisors tomorrow at 9am local time. Your attitudes will be restored to factory settings. Drink no fluids after midnight. Prepare to spend 24 hours in treatment.

We need the NSA to have a good record of all email produced and received by the nation's future leaders. After all, we must confirm their worship of Lucifer if they hope to be president.

Don't expect them to accept responsibility when your email goes down or gets zapped - their tech support is non-existent.

Google & NSA working together? It's not realy a joke:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/04/google_nsa_data_share/
And that's just the only collaboration we're hearing about. Makes you wonder how else they are working together.
As for reliability of Google? Hah.

And what's sillier is how people complain about the Horde WebMail interface. Well, if you don't like, don't use it! ITS has easy instructions on how to setup Thunderbird, Outlook (yech), Entourage (double yech), Apple Mail (triple yech), and even Eudora (why bother?) to get your email:
http://www.yale.edu/its/email/howdoi/email-config.html